The
40Argon/39Argon Dating
Method
By Paul
Nethercott
April
2014
How
reliable is radiometric dating? We are repeatedly told that it proves the Earth
to be billions of years old. If radiometric dating is reliable than it should
not contradict the evolutionary model. According to the Big Bang theory the age
of the Universe is 10 to 15 billion years.1 Standard evolutionist
publications give the age of
the universe as 13.75 Billion years. 2, 3
Standard
evolutionist geology views the Earth as being 4.5 billion years old. Here are
some quotes from popular text: “The age
of the Earth is 4.54
± 0.05 billion years.”
4 “The
Solar System, formed between 4.53 and 4.58 billion years ago.” 1 “The age of 4.54 billion years
found for the Solar System and Earth.” 1 “A
valid age for the Earth of 4.55 billion years.” 5, 6
If we run the
isotopic ratios give in standard geology magazines through the computer program
Isoplot 7 we find that
the Uranium/Thorium/Lead isotopic ratios in the rocks disagree radically other
dating methods. The U/Th/Pb ratios give ages older than the evolutionist age of
the Earth, Solar System, Galaxy and Universe. How can Earth rocks be dated as
being older than the Big Bang? Here are examples of isotopic ratios taken from
several articles in major geology magazines which give absolutely absurd
dates.
207Pb/206Pb and
40Argon/39Argon ages from South West Montana
These rocks from
North America were dated in 2002 using both 8 40Argon/39Argon
and
Lead-Lead dating methods. Again the no dates beside
the 207Pb/206Pb ratios. If we add dates we soon see why.
The first table in his article has dates 9 using the
40Ar–39Ar
dating method. The third table 10 has the
207Pb/206Pb ratios.
Table
1
Sample |
Argon/Argon |
Argon/Argon |
Pb
Dating |
Pb
Dating |
Name |
Max
Age |
Min
Age |
Max
Age |
Min
Age |
RRCR2 |
1,818 |
1,695 |
4,471 |
1,895 |
RRSW1 |
1,806 |
1,740 |
5,011 |
4,032 |
HLM2 |
1,853 |
1,620 |
4,522 |
1,848 |
TRMR2 |
1,729 |
1,199 |
5,049 |
2,644 |
If
we use the computer program Isoplot
and calculate the ages of the 207Pb/206Pb ratios
we see why not dates have been put beside them. The Argon-Argon
and Lead-Lead dating methods are extremely discordant. The author’s use of data
is very selective. Dates that agree are added and those that do not are omitted.
This happens over and over in geology magazines. We can see from the table below
that many dates are older than the evolutionist view of the age of Earth. How
can such an absurdity be possible? How can the Earth be older than
itself?
Table
2
Sample |
Million |
Age
|
Name |
Years |
Category |
RRSW1 |
5,005 |
Older
Than The Solar System |
RRSW1 |
5,011 |
Older
Than The Solar System |
RRSW1 |
4,939 |
Older
Than Earth |
TRMR2 |
5,015 |
Older
Than The Solar System |
TRMR2 |
5,049 |
Older
Than The Solar System |
207Pb/206Pb
Dates
Shocked
Meteorites: Argon-40/Argon-39
Dated
in 1997 by scientists 11 from Germany and France, these meteorite
samples gave astounding results also. Many dates were older than the
evolutionist age of the Solar System, older than the evolutionist age of the
galaxy and older than the Big Bang. 12 Most age results that were
hundreds or thousands of percent discordant.
Table
3
Sample |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Percent |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
A.
Rose City (H5/S6) host rock |
4,766 |
193 |
4,573 |
2,469 |
B.
Rose City (H5/S6) melt |
4,529 |
2,126 |
2,403 |
213 |
C.
Rose City (H5/S6) host rock #1 |
3,876 |
231 |
3,645 |
1,678 |
D.
Rose City (H5/S6) host rock #2 |
3,259 |
293 |
2,966 |
1,112 |
E.
Travis County (H5/S4) whole rock |
3,614 |
295 |
3,319 |
1,225 |
F.
Yanzhuang (H6/S6) host rock |
5,598 |
65 |
5,533 |
8,612 |
G.
Yanzhuang (H6/S6) melt fragment |
10,217 |
1,902 |
8,315 |
537 |
H.
Yanzhuang (H6/S6) melt vein |
7,016 |
1,314 |
5,702 |
534 |
I.
Alfianello (L6/S5) whole rock |
3,470 |
968 |
2,502 |
358 |
J.
Bluff (L6/S6) host rock |
13,348 |
506 |
12,842 |
2,638 |
K.
Bluff (L6/S6) melt |
3,773 |
554 |
3,219 |
681 |
L.
Mbale (L5-6) whole rock |
3,531 |
466 |
3,065 |
758 |
M.
McKinney (L4/S4-5) whole rock |
1,821 |
499 |
1,322 |
365 |
N.
Ness County (L6/S6) host rock #I |
5,052 |
987 |
4,065 |
512 |
O.
Ness County (L6/S6) host rock #2 |
6,668 |
1,997 |
4,671 |
334 |
P.
Paranaiba (L6/S6) host mk #I |
3,332 |
453 |
2,879 |
736 |
Q.
Paranaiba (L6/s6) host rock #2 |
5,593 |
3,110 |
2,483 |
180 |
R.
Taiban (L5/S6) host rock |
2,845 |
492 |
2,353 |
578 |
S.
Taiban (L5/S6) melt |
1,435 |
156 |
1,279 |
920 |
T.
Walters (L6/S4) host rock |
3,452 |
1,592 |
1,860 |
217 |
U.
Walters (L6/S4) melt |
4,074 |
2,026 |
2,048 |
201 |
V.
Beeler (LU/S4) host rock #I |
6,466 |
798 |
5,668 |
810 |
W.
Beeler (LL6/S4) host rock #2 |
6,609 |
1,491 |
5,118 |
443 |
X.
ALHA 8101 1 (eucrite) clast |
3,818 |
375 |
3,443 |
1,018 |
Y.
ALHA 8101 1 (eucrite) melt |
2,827 |
244 |
2,583 |
1,159 |
Argon Diffusion
Properties
Dating
done in 1980 of various meteorites gave many discordant values.13 Six
were dated as older than the evolutionist
view of the
age of the Solar System. 14
Table
4
Meteor's |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Percentage |
Name |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Difference |
Wellman |
5.2 |
3.737 |
139% |
Wickenburg
|
3.005 |
0.568 |
529% |
Shaw |
5.15 |
4.17 |
123% |
Louisville |
5.5 |
0.51 |
1,078% |
Arapahoe |
9.71 |
0.89 |
1,091% |
Farmington |
3.7 |
0.511 |
724% |
Lubbock |
9.4 |
0.12 |
7,833% |
Orvinio |
8.78 |
0.764 |
1,149% |
U-Th-Pb
Dating of Abee E4 Meteorite
This
dating was done in 1982 by scientists from the NASA, Johnson Space Center,
Houston Texas and the U.S. Geological Survey, Denver, Colorado.15 The
two table below [Table 5, 6] are a summary of Argon dating done on different
meteorite samples.16 Both sample record dates older than the
evolutionist age of the solar system. The original article has undated
207Pb/206Pb ratios. If we run the through Isoplot
7 we find the ratios 17, 18 give
the results in tables 7 and 8. All are much older than the evolutionist age of the solar
system.
Table
5
Abee
clast 2, 2, 05 |
||
Maximum
Age |
7,200 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
3,990 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,640 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
3,210 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
180% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
840 |
Million
Years |
Table
6
Abee
clast 3, 3, 06 |
||
Maximum
Age |
8,900 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
3,580 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,610 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
5,320 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
248% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
1,360 |
Million
Years |
Table
7
Meteorite |
Pb-206/207 |
Pb-206/207 |
Name |
Ratio |
Age |
Abee
1 |
1.0992 |
5,370 |
|
1.0945 |
5,364 |
|
1.0947 |
5,364 |
|
1.0330 |
5,283 |
|
| |
Abee
2 |
1.1000 |
5,371 |
|
1.0966 |
5,367 |
|
0.8958 |
5,082 |
|
| |
Abee
3 |
1.0976 |
5,368 |
|
1.0967 |
5,367 |
|
1.0708 |
5,333 |
Table
8
Meteorite |
Pb-207/206 |
Pb-207/206 |
Name |
Ratio |
Age |
Abee
1 |
1.0993 |
5,370 |
|
1.1005 |
5,372 |
|
1.0994 |
5,370 |
|
|
|
Abee
2 |
1.1005 |
5,372 |
|
1.0991 |
5,370 |
|
|
|
Abee
3 |
1.0999 |
5,371 |
|
1.0993 |
5,370 |
|
|
|
Indarch |
1.1005 |
5,372 |
|
|
|
St.
Sauveur |
0.7015 |
4,734 |
|
|
|
Canyon
Diablo |
1.1060 |
5,379 |
The
original article has undated 232Thorium and 238Uranium
ratios. If we run these through Isoplot 7 we find the ratios 17,
18 give
the results in table 9. All these dates are between 18 and 93 billion years old.
Much older than the evolutionist age
of the universe.
Table
9
206Pb/238U |
208Pb/232Th |
207Pb/206Pb |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
27,806 |
86,711 |
5,370 |
26,605 |
84,996 |
5,364 |
27,370 |
86,616 |
5,364 |
23,272 |
85,323 |
5,283 |
28,051 |
85,725 |
5,371 |
27,476 |
83,944 |
5,367 |
18,801 |
93,166 |
5,082 |
28,127 |
82,811 |
5,368 |
26,517 |
81,174 |
5,367 |
22,143 |
75,483 |
5,333 |
Argon-39/Argon-40
Ages
These samples
were dated in 2003 by scientists from the NASA Johnson Space Center, Houston,
Texas, and the Lockheed-Martin Corporation, Houston, Texas.19 The Monahans chondrite and halite was dated
in 2001 as being over eight billion years old. 20
Table
10
Maximum
Age |
8,058 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
3,899 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,474 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
4,159 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
206% |
Percent |
40-Argon/39-Argon
Ages of Allende
Scientist
from the Max-Planck-Institute, Heidelberg, Germany, dated these samples in 1980.
21 Seven samples were dated as being over five billion years
old. 22 The data in table 11 contains fifteen dates 21
over 4.6 billion years old and six that are over five billion years old.
The data in table 12 contains eighty eight dates 22 over 4.6 billion
years old and twenty that are over five billion years old.
Table
11
Number |
Mineral |
K/Ar |
Ar/Ar |
1 |
Matrix |
3.8 |
|
2 |
Whole |
4.43 |
4.57 |
|
|
4.62 |
|
3 |
Monosomatic |
4.63 |
|
4 |
Barred |
4.26 |
4.56 |
5 |
Fine |
4.53 |
|
6 |
Granular |
4.51 |
|
7 |
Granular |
4.56 |
|
8 |
Black |
4.52 |
|
|
|
4.33 |
4.47 |
9 |
Fine |
4.44 |
4.55 |
10 |
Fine |
4.82 |
|
11 |
Iquffy |
4.49 |
4.5 |
12 |
Coarse |
4.2 |
4.52 |
13 |
Coarse |
4.4 |
4.53 |
14 |
Gray |
4.23 |
4.48 |
15 |
White |
5.12 |
4.98 |
16 |
White |
|
5.43 |
17 |
Coarse |
5.08 |
4.92 |
18 |
Coarse |
|
5.37 |
19 |
Coarse |
4.92 |
4.68 |
20 |
Coarse |
5.54 |
5.27 |
21 |
Coarse |
5.26 |
4.62 |
23 |
Coarse |
4.57 |
|
Table
12
Sample |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Percentage |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
Sample
01 |
4,455 |
2,452 |
2,003 |
181% |
Sample
02 |
5,067 |
3,027 |
2,040 |
167% |
Sample
03 |
4,919 |
4,092 |
827 |
120% |
Sample
04 |
4,939 |
4,363 |
576 |
113% |
Sample
05 |
4,691 |
2,248 |
2,443 |
208% |
Sample
06 |
4,943 |
4,102 |
841 |
120% |
Sample
07 |
4,835 |
4,166 |
669 |
116% |
Sample
08 |
4,776 |
4,207 |
569 |
113% |
Sample
09 |
5,004 |
3,682 |
1,322 |
135% |
Sample
10 |
4,505 |
1,871 |
2,634 |
240% |
Sample
11 |
4,707 |
3,631 |
1,076 |
129% |
Sample
12 |
5,641 |
4,330 |
1,311 |
130% |
Sample
13 |
4,549 |
4,396 |
153 |
103% |
Sample
19 |
5,590 |
4,110 |
1,480 |
136% |
Sample
20 |
5,812 |
4,367 |
1,445 |
133% |
Sample
21 |
5,784 |
4,256 |
1,528 |
135% |
Sample
23 |
7,460 |
3,967 |
3,493 |
188% |
Ar-39/Ar-40
Dating of IAB Iron Meteorites
In 1979 this
dating was carried out by the Department of Physics, University of California,
Berkeley. 23 One of the meteorites was dated at almost ten billion
years old. 24 I will use the following
Argon/Argon dating formula 25 listed in Brent Dalrymple’s
book:
Where
T is the age in years and J is the special constant. If we run a list of eighty
Argon 40/39 ratios listed 26 in Niemeyer’s article through
Microsoft Excel we get eighty dates. The J value 24 is listed in the
article as 0.03754. Twenty six
dates [32%] are over 4.6 billion years old. Twenty one dates [26%] are over 5
billion years old. Thirteen dates [16%] are impossible future ages. The dates vary
from negative 2.42 billion to positive 9.59 billion years old. There is a 12
billion year range of dates. In the table below we can see the comparison
between the so called “Model Age” 24 and dates calculated from the
eighty ratios 26.
Table
13
Meteor |
Max
Age |
Min
Age |
Model
Age |
Range |
Sample |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Landes |
6.01 |
-2.42 |
4.55 |
8.43 |
Copiapo |
5.89 |
-1.16 |
4.47 |
7.05 |
Woodbine |
9.59 |
0.48 |
4.61 |
9.11 |
Mundrabilla
silicate |
6.7 |
-0.57 |
4.59 |
7.27 |
Unetched |
6.01 |
-1.04 |
4.54 |
7.05 |
Etched |
6.98 |
0.09 |
4.57 |
6.89 |
Mundrabilla
troilite |
4.22 |
-0.62 |
9.5 |
4.84 |
40Ar-39Ar
Studies of Whole Rock Nakhlites
These whole rock
nakhiltes were dated in 2004 by scientists from the Lunar and Planetary
Laboratory, University of Arizona, Tucson,
Arizona.27
Table
14
Table |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Difference |
Number |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Percent |
Table
1 |
1,405 |
262 |
1,143 |
536% |
Table
2 |
1,409 |
199 |
1,210 |
708% |
Table
3 |
1,425 |
761 |
664 |
187% |
40Ar/39Ar Dating Of
Desert Meteorites
Dated
in 2005 by scientists 28 from Germany and Russia, these meteorite
samples gave astounding results. Many dates were older than the evolutionist age
of the Solar System. 29
Table
16
Sample
Name |
Million
Years |
Table
A1. Dhofar 007 whole rock. |
7,632 |
|
6,033 |
|
5,498 |
|
|
Table
A2. Dhofar 007 plagioclase. |
7,582 |
|
7,011 |
|
4,753 |
|
4,741 |
|
|
Table
A3. Dhofar 300 whole rock. |
9,015 |
|
8,485 |
|
5,516 |
|
5,137 |
|
|
Table
A5. Dhofar 300 pyroxene |
8,957 |
|
6,064 |
|
5,656 |
|
4,998 |
|
4,720 |
|
|
Table
A5. Dhofar 300 plagioclase. |
9,680 |
|
5,793 |
|
5,721 |
|
5,395 |
|
5,237 |
|
5,035 |
|
4,788 |
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