Meteorite
Dating
By Paul
Nethercott
May
2012
How
reliable is radiometric dating? We are repeatedly told that it proves the Earth
to be billions of years old. If radiometric dating is reliable than it should
not contradict the evolutionary model. According to the Big Bang theory the age
of the Universe is 10 to 15 billion years.1 Standard evolutionist
publications give the age of
the universe as 13.75 Billion years. 2, 3
Standard
evolutionist geology views the Earth as being 4.5 billion years old. Here are
some quotes from popular text: The age
of the Earth is 4.54
± 0.05 billion years.
4 The
Solar System, formed between 4.53 and 4.58 billion years ago. 1 The age of 4.54 billion years
found for the Solar System and Earth. 1 A
valid age for the Earth of 4.55 billion years.
5, 6
Evolutionists
give the age of the galaxy as 11 to 13 billion years for the age of the Milky
Way Galaxy. 1,
7 Let us remember this as we look at the following dating
as given in secular science journals.
History Of The
Acapulco Meteorite
This
meteorite was dated in 1997 by scientists 8 from France and Germany.
Some of the dates 9 are older than the Solar System. We shall soon
see that this is quite common for dating these rocks.
Table
1
Maximum
Age |
11,421 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
3,481 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,964 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
7,940 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
328% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
1,723 |
Million
Years |
Potassium Argon
Dating of Iron Meteorites
This article
summarised meteorite dating in 1967. 10 Even 40 years later things
are no better. In the opening paragraph he states that the iron meteorite from
Weekeroo Station is date at ten billion years old. He then continues: The formation or solidification ages of iron
meteorites have never been well determined. 11 He then cites
earlier dating which produced an age of seven billion years. 12 The
author concludes with the following remark: The ages found by us are typical of the great
ages found for most iron meteorites. From these, in conjunction with the
Strontium: Rubidium data of Wasserburg et al. on silicate inclusions in this
meteorite, we conclude that the potassium: argon dating technique as applied to
iron meteorites gives unreliable results.
13
Table
2
Meteorite |
Age |
Sample |
Billion
Years |
Neutron
Activation |
10.0 |
Stoenner
and Zahringer |
7.0 |
Muller
and Ziihringer's |
6.3 |
Wasserburg,
Burnett |
4.7 |
K-1 |
8.5 |
K-2 |
9.3 |
B-1 |
6.5 |
G-1 |
10.4 |
Pb Isotopic age
of the Allende Chondrules
The meteorite
was dated in 2007 using the 206Pb/238U dating method.
14 Over ten dates older than the age of the evolutionist age of the
Solar System were produced and one was older [Ten Billion years] than the age of
the galaxy. 15
Table
3
Maximum
Age |
10,066 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
1,799 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,509 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
8,267 |
Million
Years |
Percentage
Difference |
559% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
1,640 |
Million
Years |
Rhenium-187-Osmium-187
in Iron Meteorites
Scientists
from France used both 87Sr/86Sr and Rhenium-Osmium method
were used to date this meteorite in 1998.16 Dates in the essay
17 of the Canyon Diablo meteorite vary from one to fourteen billion
years old. There is a 1,200% difference between the youngest and oldest date
obtained for the one rock.
Table
4
Meteorite |
Age |
Name |
Billion
Years |
Canyon
Diablo |
|
Troilite
4 |
1.13 |
Leach
Acetone |
5.73 |
Leach
H,O |
8.31 |
Troilite
dissolved |
10.43 |
Metal
1 |
13.7 |
Ar-39/Ar-40
Dating of Mesosiderites
This
was dated in 1990 by Scientists from the NASA Johnson Space
Center, Houston, Texas.18 All of the eleven meteorites dated gave
ages older than the Solar System and three dated as being as old, or even older
than the evolutionist age of the galaxy. 19 According to one table
the supposed true age is just 3.5 billion years old.
20
Table
5
Meteorite |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Age
Difference |
Percentage |
Name |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Difference |
1.
Emery |
9.08 |
3.31 |
5.77 |
274% |
2.
Estherville |
13.96 |
3.18 |
10.78 |
438% |
3.
Hainholz |
5.48 |
1.55 |
3.93 |
353% |
4.
Lowicz |
9.93 |
2.92 |
7.01 |
340% |
5.
Morristown |
7.92 |
3.60 |
4.32 |
220% |
6.
Mount Padbury |
5.52 |
3.49 |
2.03 |
158% |
7.
Patwar Basalt |
6.14 |
1.80 |
4.34 |
341% |
8.
Patwar Gabbro |
8.43 |
2.67 |
5.76 |
315% |
9.
QUE-86900 |
10.92 |
3.24 |
7.68 |
337% |
10.
Simondium |
9.17 |
3.27 |
5.90 |
280% |
11.
Veramin |
13.13 |
2.71 |
10.42 |
484% |
40Ar-39Ar
Chronology
Dated
in 2009 by scientists 21 from Germany and Russia, these meteorite
samples gave astounding results. Many dates were older than the evolutionist age
of the Solar System, older than the galaxy and older than the Big Bang. 22
Most age results were hundreds or thousands of percent
discordant.
Table
6
Sample |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Age
Difference |
Percent |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
Table
A01. Dhofar 019 whole rock |
11,679 |
737 |
10,942 |
1,584% |
Table
A02. Dhofar 019 maskelynite |
10,521 |
818 |
9,703 |
1,286% |
Table
A03. Dhofar 019 pyroxene |
10,730 |
804 |
9,926 |
1,334% |
Table
A04. Dhofar 019 olivine |
10,487 |
1,778 |
8,709 |
589% |
Table
A05. Dhofar 019 opaque |
14,917 |
4,420 |
10,497 |
337% |
Table
A06. SaU 005 whole rock |
7,184 |
568 |
6,616 |
1,264% |
Table
A07. SaU 005 glass |
6,235 |
3,247 |
2,988 |
192% |
Table
A08. SaU 005 maskelynite |
7,432 |
1,344 |
6,088 |
552% |
Table
A10. SaU 005 olivine |
13,979 |
3,839 |
10,140 |
364% |
Table
A11. Shergotty whole rock |
8,542 |
1,112 |
7,430 |
768% |
Table
A15. Zagami whole rock |
6,064 |
94 |
5,970 |
6,451% |
Table
A16. Zagami maskelynite |
5,733 |
238 |
5,495 |
2,408% |
Table
A18. Zagami opaque |
7,707 |
290 |
7,417 |
2,657% |
Table
A9. SaU 005 pyroxene |
12,845 |
1,354 |
11,491 |
948% |
Shocked
Meteorites: Argon-40/Argon-39
Dated
in 1997 by scientists 23 from Germany and France, these meteorite
samples gave astounding results also. Many dates were older than the age of the
Solar System, older than the galaxy and older than the Big Bang. 24
Most age results that were hundreds or thousands of percent
discordant.
Table
7
Sample |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Percent |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
A.
Rose City (H5/S6) host rock |
4,766 |
193 |
4,573 |
2,469 |
B.
Rose City (H5/S6) melt |
4,529 |
2,126 |
2,403 |
213 |
C.
Rose City (H5/S6) host rock #1 |
3,876 |
231 |
3,645 |
1,678 |
D.
Rose City (H5/S6) host rock #2 |
3,259 |
293 |
2,966 |
1,112 |
E.
Travis County (H5/S4) whole rock |
3,614 |
295 |
3,319 |
1,225 |
F.
Yanzhuang (H6/S6) host rock |
5,598 |
65 |
5,533 |
8,612 |
G.
Yanzhuang (H6/S6) melt fragment |
10,217 |
1,902 |
8,315 |
537 |
H.
Yanzhuang (H6/S6) melt vein |
7,016 |
1,314 |
5,702 |
534 |
I.
Alfianello (L6/S5) whole rock |
3,470 |
968 |
2,502 |
358 |
J.
Bluff (L6/S6) host rock |
13,348 |
506 |
12,842 |
2,638 |
K.
Bluff (L6/S6) melt |
3,773 |
554 |
3,219 |
681 |
L.
Mbale (L5-6) whole rock |
3,531 |
466 |
3,065 |
758 |
M.
McKinney (L4/S4-5) whole rock |
1,821 |
499 |
1,322 |
365 |
N.
Ness County (L6/S6) host rock #I |
5,052 |
987 |
4,065 |
512 |
O.
Ness County (L6/S6) host rock #2 |
6,668 |
1,997 |
4,671 |
334 |
P.
Paranaiba (L6/S6) host mk #I |
3,332 |
453 |
2,879 |
736 |
Q.
Paranaiba (L6/s6) host rock #2 |
5,593 |
3,110 |
2,483 |
180 |
R.
Taiban (L5/S6) host rock |
2,845 |
492 |
2,353 |
578 |
S.
Taiban (L5/S6) melt |
1,435 |
156 |
1,279 |
920 |
T.
Walters (L6/S4) host rock |
3,452 |
1,592 |
1,860 |
217 |
U.
Walters (L6/S4) melt |
4,074 |
2,026 |
2,048 |
201 |
V.
Beeler (LU/S4) host rock #I |
6,466 |
798 |
5,668 |
810 |
W.
Beeler (LL6/S4) host rock #2 |
6,609 |
1,491 |
5,118 |
443 |
X.
ALHA 8101 1 (eucrite) clast |
3,818 |
375 |
3,443 |
1,018 |
Y.
ALHA 8101 1 (eucrite) melt |
2,827 |
244 |
2,583 |
1,159 |
Potassium-Argon
age of Iron Meteorites
If we compare
the dates below with the previous two tables [Tables 6 and 7] we see that dating
done on meteorites has not improved in fifty years! The dates below [Table 8]
were dating done in 1958 by scientists from Brookhaven National Laboratory,
Upton, New York.25 These dates 26 are just as stupid as
the previous two tables. The choice of 4.5 billion years as an absolute value
is purely and arbitrary choice.
Table
8
Meteorite |
Age |
K-Ar
Dating |
Billion
Years |
Mt.
Ayliff |
6.9 |
Arispe |
6.8 |
H.
H. Ninninger |
6.9 |
Carbo |
8.4 |
Canon
Diablo I |
8.5 |
Canon
Diablo I |
6.9 |
Canon
Diablo I |
6.6 |
Canon
Diablo I |
5.3 |
Canon
Diablo II |
13 |
Canon
Diablo II |
11 |
Canon
Diablo II |
10.5 |
Canon
Diablo II |
12 |
Toluca
I |
5.9 |
Toluca
I |
7.1 |
Toluca
II |
10 |
Toluca
II |
10.8 |
Toluca
II |
8.8 |
The Allende and
Orgueil Chondrites
This rock was
dated in 1976 by scientists from the United States Geological Survey, Denver,
Colorado. 27 Six were dated as being over ten billion years old.
28 Two were dated as being as old as the Big Bang explosion.
28Fifty three dates were over five billion years. 28 Below
[Tables 9 and 10] we can see the strong discordance between the
208Pb/232Th and 206Pb/238U dating
methods
Table
9
Pb-208/Th-232 |
||
Maximum
Age |
14.40 |
Billion
Years |
Minimum
Age |
4.81 |
Billion
Years |
Average
Age |
6.40 |
Billion
Years |
Age
Difference |
9.59 |
Billion
Years |
Difference |
299.38% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
3.37 |
Billion
Years |
Table
10
Pb-206/U-238 |
||
Maximum
Age |
9.86 |
Billion
Years |
Minimum
Age |
3.91 |
Billion
Years |
Average
Age |
6.02 |
Billion
Years |
Age
Difference |
5.95 |
Billion
Years |
Difference |
252.17% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
1.45 |
Billion
Years |
Precise U-Pb
dating of Chondrites
This dating was
done in 2005 by scientists from USA and Canada. 29 Five dates were
over five billion years old. 30
Table
11
Maximum
Age |
6,473 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
4,249 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,675 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
2,224 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
152% |
Percent |
UPb Ages of
Angrites
This dating was
done in 2007 by scientists from Australia and Canada.31 Eight dates
were older than the evolutionist age of the Solar
System.32
Table
12
Sample |
Pb-206/U-238 |
Name |
Million
Years |
Angra
dos Reis |
|
4W3 |
5,535 |
5W3 |
5,658 |
Lewis
Cliff 86010 |
|
10W3a |
6,072 |
11W3 |
6,625 |
DOrbigny |
|
15R |
4,842 |
16Ra |
4,893 |
17R |
4,695 |
18R |
4,972 |
19R |
5,080 |
20R |
4,957 |
21W3 |
5,471 |
22W3 |
5,291 |
23W3 |
5,568 |
Argon Diffusion
Properties
Dating
done in 1980 of various meteorites gave many discordant values.32 Six
were dated as older than the Solar System. 33
Table
13
Meteor's |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Percentage |
Name |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Difference |
Wellman |
5.2 |
3.737 |
139% |
Wickenburg
|
3.005 |
0.568 |
529% |
Shaw |
5.15 |
4.17 |
123% |
Louisville |
5.5 |
0.51 |
1,078% |
Arapahoe |
9.71 |
0.89 |
1,091% |
Farmington |
3.7 |
0.511 |
724% |
Lubbock |
9.4 |
0.12 |
7,833% |
Orvinio |
8.78 |
0.764 |
1,149% |
U-Th-Pb
Dating of Abee E4 Meteorite
This
dating was done in 1982 by scientists from the NASA, Johnson Space Center,
Houston Texas and the U.S. Geological Survey, Denver, Colorado.35 The
two table below [Table 14, 15] are a summary of Argon dating done on different
meteorite samples.36 Both sample record dates older than the
evolutionist age of the solar system. The original article has undated
207Pb/206Pb ratios. If we run the through Isoplot
37 we find the ratios 38, 39 give
the results in tables 16 and 17. All are much older than the evolutionist age of the solar
system.
Table
14
Abee
clast 2, 2, 05 |
||
Maximum
Age |
7,200 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
3,990 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,640 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
3,210 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
180% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
840 |
Million
Years |
Table
15
Abee
clast 3, 3, 06 |
||
Maximum
Age |
8,900 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
3,580 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,610 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
5,320 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
248% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
1,360 |
Million
Years |
Table
16
Meteorite |
Pb-206/207 |
Pb-206/207 |
Name |
Ratio |
Age |
Abee
1 |
1.0992 |
5,370 |
|
1.0945 |
5,364 |
|
1.0947 |
5,364 |
|
1.0330 |
5,283 |
|
| |
Abee
2 |
1.1000 |
5,371 |
|
1.0966 |
5,367 |
|
0.8958 |
5,082 |
|
| |
Abee
3 |
1.0976 |
5,368 |
|
1.0967 |
5,367 |
|
1.0708 |
5,333 |
Table
17
Meteorite |
Pb-207/206 |
Pb-207/206 |
Name |
Ratio |
Age |
Abee
1 |
1.0993 |
5,370 |
|
1.1005 |
5,372 |
|
1.0994 |
5,370 |
|
|
|
Abee
2 |
1.1005 |
5,372 |
|
1.0991 |
5,370 |
|
|
|
Abee
3 |
1.0999 |
5,371 |
|
1.0993 |
5,370 |
|
|
|
Indarch |
1.1005 |
5,372 |
|
|
|
St.
Sauveur |
0.7015 |
4,734 |
|
|
|
Canyon
Diablo |
1.1060 |
5,379 |
39Ar/40Ar Ages
of Eucrites
These samples
were dated in 2003 by scientists from the NASA Johnson Space Center, Houston,
Texas, and the Lockheed-Martin Corporation, Houston, Texas.40 Ten of
the meteorites were dated as being over five billion years old.
41
Table
18
Meteorite |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Percent |
Sample |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
A.
QUE 97053,8
|
9,669 |
3,749 |
5,920 |
257% |
B.
GRA 98098,26 WR |
7,008 |
3,239 |
3,769 |
216% |
C.
PCA - 82502,81 |
5,431 |
3,300 |
2,131 |
164% |
D.
PCA - 91007,26 |
4,460 |
1,560 |
2,900 |
285% |
E.
Caldera |
4,493 |
2,819 |
1,674 |
159% |
F.
Asuka-881388,55 |
4,853 |
3,250 |
1,603 |
149% |
G.
Asuka-881467,42 |
4,465 |
202 |
4,263 |
2,210% |
H.
GRO - 95533,7 |
4,096 |
2,823 |
1,273 |
145% |
I.
QUE - 97014,5 |
4,553 |
2,947 |
1,606 |
154% |
J.
Moama |
4,484 |
866 |
3,618 |
517% |
K.
EET - 87520 |
5,481 |
2,004 |
3,477 |
273% |
L.
Moore County |
6,742 |
1,827 |
4,915 |
369% |
M.
Serra de Mage |
6,100 |
499 |
5,601 |
1222% |
N.
EET -87548 |
3,674 |
1,738 |
1,936 |
211% |
O.
ALH -85001,32 |
4,754 |
3,097 |
1,657 |
153% |
P.
Piplia Kalan |
4,284 |
162 |
4,122 |
2644% |
Q.
Sioux County |
4,513 |
2,189 |
2,324 |
206% |
R.
Asuka-87272,49 |
3,652 |
342 |
3,310 |
1067% |
S.
Macibini Glass |
5,788 |
2,621 |
3,167 |
220% |
T.
QUE - 94200,13 |
3,724 |
3,169 |
555 |
117% |
U.
EET - 87509,24 |
7,496 |
4,026 |
3,470 |
186% |
V.
EET - 87509,71 |
4,449 |
3,558 |
891 |
125% |
W.
EET -87509,74 |
4,645 |
873 |
3,772 |
532% |
X.
EET - 87531,21 |
4,176 |
3,301 |
875 |
126% |
Y.
EET - 87503,53 |
5,209 |
3,568 |
1,641 |
145% |
Z.
EET - 87503,23 |
5,324 |
2,294 |
3,030 |
232% |
Argon-39/Argon-40
Ages
These samples
were dated in 2003 by scientists from the NASA Johnson Space Center, Houston,
Texas, and the Lockheed-Martin Corporation, Houston, Texas.42 The Monahans chondrite and halite was dated
in 2001 as being over eight billion years old. 43
Table
19
Maximum
Age |
8,058 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
3,899 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,474 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
4,159 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
206% |
Percent |
Rb-Sr Ages Of
Iron Meteorites
These
samples were dated in 1967 by the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena,
California.44 Even after 40 years of research and the massive
improvement in laboratory equipment and computer technology, things today are
just as bad as back then! Fourteen of the dates are five billion years or more.
45
Table
20
Meteorite |
Age |
Rb-Sr
Dating |
Billion
Years |
Four
Corners AM 1 |
8.4 |
|
9.3 |
|
9.1 |
|
9.1 |
|
8.5 |
|
8.2 |
Four
Corners AM 2-B1 |
5.0 |
|
5.1 |
|
4.8 |
Four
Corners AM 2-B6 |
5.0 |
Four
Corners H-1 |
5.0 |
Four
Corners H-3 |
4.9 |
Four
Corners N-1 |
5.2 |
Linwood
H-B1 |
5.1 |
Odessa
N1-8 |
4.9 |
|
4.8 |
Toluca
N-A3 |
5.0 |
|
4.7 |
|
4.9 |
|
4.9 |
Colomera
D6 |
5.1 |
40-Ar / 39-Ar
Ages of Allende
Scientist
from the Max-Planck-Institute, Heidelberg, Germany, dated these samples in 1980.
46 Seven samples were dated as being over five billion years
old. 47
Table
21
Sample |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Percentage |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
Sample
01 |
4,455 |
2,452 |
2,003 |
181% |
Sample
02 |
5,067 |
3,027 |
2,040 |
167% |
Sample
03 |
4,919 |
4,092 |
827 |
120% |
Sample
04 |
4,939 |
4,363 |
576 |
113% |
Sample
05 |
4,691 |
2,248 |
2,443 |
208% |
Sample
06 |
4,943 |
4,102 |
841 |
120% |
Sample
07 |
4,835 |
4,166 |
669 |
116% |
Sample
08 |
4,776 |
4,207 |
569 |
113% |
Sample
09 |
5,004 |
3,682 |
1,322 |
135% |
Sample
10 |
4,505 |
1,871 |
2,634 |
240% |
Sample
11 |
4,707 |
3,631 |
1,076 |
129% |
Sample
12 |
5,641 |
4,330 |
1,311 |
130% |
Sample
13 |
4,549 |
4,396 |
153 |
103% |
Sample
19 |
5,590 |
4,110 |
1,480 |
136% |
Sample
20 |
5,812 |
4,367 |
1,445 |
133% |
Sample
21 |
5,784 |
4,256 |
1,528 |
135% |
Sample
23 |
7,460 |
3,967 |
3,493 |
188% |
The Fossil LL6
Chondrite
These
meteorite fragments were dated in 2010 by scientists from Australia, South
Africa, England and Finland. 48 Some dates are over 4,000 percent
discordant. 49The oldest dates are as old as the evolutionist age of
the galaxy. 49
Table
22
Sample |
Maximum
Age |
Minimum
Age |
Age
Difference |
Percent |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
A |
2,065 |
164 |
1,902 |
1,263% |
B |
2,849 |
924 |
1,925 |
308% |
C |
2,043 |
177 |
1,867 |
1,157% |
D |
7,119 |
174 |
6,945 |
4,082% |
E |
3,889 |
249 |
3,640 |
1,563% |
F |
11,250 |
5,475 |
5,775 |
205% |
K/Ar Age
Determinations of Iron Meteorites
This was dated
in 1968 and produced ages between 1.5 and 7.4 billion years. 50 Eight
dates were older than the age of the Solar System. 51 Comparing
dating forty years ago with the latest dating techniques shows no
improvement.
Table
23
Meteorite |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Percentage |
K-Ar
Dating |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Difference |
Carthage
527 |
6.25 |
3.65 |
2.60 |
171.23% |
Odessa
485 |
7.40 |
4.20 |
3.20 |
176.19% |
Tombigbee
River 602 |
6.35 |
4.85 |
1.50 |
130.93% |
The Peace River
Shocked M Chondrite
The
meteorite was dated by scientists from the Physics Department, Sheffield
University, United Kingdom. 52 The dates listed
in the original article 53 are much older than the evolutionist age
of the solar system. This was done in 1988. If you compare table 23 and table 24
in my essay you will see that after 20 years of research the dating is just as
bad as day one.
Table
24
Sample |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Percent |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
TABLE
1A |
3,176 |
190 |
2,986 |
1672% |
TABLE
1B |
5,006 |
422 |
4,584 |
1186% |
TABLE
2 |
6,130 |
950 |
5,180 |
645% |
TABLE
4 |
2,515 |
500 |
2,015 |
503% |
TABLE
5 |
7,100 |
510 |
6,590 |
1392% |
Ar-39/Ar-40
Dating of IAB Iron Meteorites
In 1979 this
dating was carried out by the Department of Physics, University of California,
Berkeley.54
One of the
meteorites was dated at almost ten billion years old.
55
Table
25
Maximum
Age |
9,500 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
4,460 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
5,161 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
5,040 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
213% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
1,753 |
Million
Years |
Antarctic
LL-Chondrites
This sample as
dated in 1990 by the Department of Earth Sciences, Faculty of Science, Kobe
University, Japan.56 Some were dated as being older than the
evolutionist age of the Solar System.57
Table
26
Maximum
Age |
7,330 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
3,110 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,410 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
4,220 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
235% |
Percent |
Standard
Deviation |
950 |
Million
Years |
Single grain
(U-Th)/He ages
This sample as
dated in 2003 by the Department of Earth and Planetary Science, University of
California, Berkeley. 58 The dating of one rock produced dates that
varied by over 300 percent. 59
Table
27
Maximum
Age |
4,909 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
1,452 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,091 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
3,457 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
338% |
Percent |
Resolution
Reveals New Problems
A
joint paper by scientist from Australia, USA, Denmark and France. 60
It discusses why there is discord between dating done on meteorite
samples. Below is a list of the five major points discussed in the article.
61
Table
28
Potential
problem |
Level
of awareness and suggested actions |
1 |
1 |
Presence
of non-radiogenic Pb of unknown isotopic
composition. |
Recognized
by most of the community. |
The
most important and common problem of all. |
Better
methods for removal of non-radiogenic Pb are
required. |
2 |
2 |
Deviations
from closed system evolution (loss of Pb, gain or loss of
U). |
Requires
monitoring UPb concordance and studying distribution
of U and radiogenic Pb. |
Important
and common. |
|
3 |
3 |
Mis-identification
of the processes that start or reset
the isotopic clocks. |
Requires
studying distribution of U and radiogenic Pb, improving
experimental reference |
Important
and common. |
data
set for element migration caused by diffusion, alteration
and shock, and linking isotopic dating |
to
the studies in mineralogy and petrology of
meteorites. | |
4 |
4 |
Analytical
problems (fractionation, instrument-specific etc.) and blank
subtraction. |
Problems
are widely recognized. Ongoing
analytical developments help to reduce
them. |
Important. |
|
5 |
5 |
Fractionation
of radiogenic Pb isotopes induced by
leaching of alpha recoil tracks. |
Recognized
by some terrestrial geochronologists, less known to
meteoriticists. |
Potentially
important. |
Detailed
experimental studies are required to understand the nature and extent of
fractionation. |
Fission-Track
Ages Of Four Meteorites
Six different
meteorites were dated in 1976 by scientists from the Enrico Fermi Institute and
Department of Chemistry, University of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois.62
The dates [Table 29] varied by almost one thousand percent! 63 If we
look at table 30 we can see the four methods used [Fission Track,
Potassium-Argon, Uranium-Helium and Rubidium-Strontium] and the discordance
between them. 63
Table
29
Sample |
Maximum
Age |
Minimum
Age |
Age
Difference |
Percent |
Name |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Difference |
Bondoc
|
1.30 |
0.14 |
1.16 |
929% |
Mincy
|
3.93 |
1.50 |
2.43 |
262% |
Nakhla
|
4.40 |
0.77 |
3.63 |
571% |
Serra
|
2.70 |
0.54 |
2.16 |
500% |
Washougal
|
4.60 |
4.00 |
0.60 |
115% |
Allende
|
4.50 |
3.60 |
0.90 |
125% |
Table
30
Meteorite
|
Fission
Track |
K-Ar |
U-He |
Rb-Sr |
Name |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Bondoc
|
0.14 |
1.30 |
0.60 |
|
Mincy
|
1.50 |
3.93 |
|
|
Nakhla
|
4.40 |
1.30 |
0.77 |
3.60 |
Serra
|
0.54 |
2.70 |
|
|
Washougal
|
4.60 |
4.00 |
|
|
Allende
|
4.50 |
4.40 |
|
3.60 |
Discordant
Meteorite Ages
Many
dates are highly discordant and give different ages for the one meteorite.
Meteorite Dar al
Gani was dated in 2004 by scientists from Italy and England. 64
Meteorite Dar al
Gani 65
Maximum
Age |
3,725 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
1,749 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
3,120 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
1,976 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
213% |
Percent |
Table
31
The Kirin
Chondrite was dated in 1981 by scientists from the Research School of Earth
Sciences, The Australian National University.
Canberra.66
The Kirin
Chondrite 67
Maximum
Age |
4,310 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
520 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
3,160 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
3,790 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
828% |
Percent |
Table
32
The Acapulco
Meteorite was dated in 2003 by scientists from the Department of Earth and
Planetary Science, University of California, Berkeley.
68
(U-Th)/He ages
from Acapulco Meteorite 69
Maximum
Age |
4,909 |
Million
Years |
Minimum
Age |
1,452 |
Million
Years |
Average
Age |
4,091 |
Million
Years |
Age
Difference |
3,457 |
Million
Years |
Difference |
338% |
Percent |
Table
33
Kyoungwon
Min
admits that the dating of the Acapulco meteorite is extremely discordant: Note
that seven out of 12 corrected ages are older than the age of the solar system.
70 The diagram above is taken from his work.
70
These whole rock
nakhiltes were dated in 2004 by scientists from the Lunar and Planetary
Laboratory, University of Arizona, Tucson,
Arizona.71
40Ar-39Ar
Studies of Whole Rock Nakhlites72
Table |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Difference |
Number |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Percent |
Table
1 |
1,405 |
262 |
1,143 |
536% |
Table
2 |
1,409 |
199 |
1,210 |
708% |
Table
3 |
1,425 |
761 |
664 |
187% |
Table
34
The Kirin
Chondrite was dated in 1980 by scientists from the Research School of Earth
Sciences, The Australian National University.
Canberra.73
History Of The
Kirin Chondrite 74
Table |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
Difference |
Number |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Percent |
Kirin-1
|
4.36 |
2.16 |
2.2 |
102% |
Kirin-2 |
4.06 |
0.48 |
3.58 |
746% |
Table
35
Uranium-Thorium-Lead
Dating Of Shergotty Phosphates
This dating was
done in 2000 by scientists from the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences,
Hiroshima University, Japan and the Planetary Geosciences Institute, Department
of Geological Sciences, University of Tennessee.75 According to
isochron diagrams in the original article, the meteorites true age is 200
million years old. 76 If we take the list of 207Pb/206Pb
ratios in this article 77 and run them through Isoplot we get the
dates as shown in table 36 below.
Table
36
Sample |
Pb-207/206 |
Pb-207/206 |
Name |
Ratio |
Age |
SHR04.1 |
0.889 |
5,071 |
SHRO5.1 |
0.916 |
5,114 |
SHR06.1 |
0.788 |
4,900 |
SHR13.1 |
0.876 |
5,051 |
SHRI5.1 |
0.833 |
4,979 |
SHR16.1 |
0.869 |
5,039 |
SHR19.1 |
0.821 |
4,959 |
SHR21.1 |
0.842 |
4,994 |
SHR26.1 |
0.922 |
5,123 |
SHR26.2 |
0.831 |
4,976 |
SHR27.1 |
0.867 |
5,036 |
SHR28.1 |
0.813 |
4,945 |
SHR29.1 |
0.827 |
4,969 |
Ion microprobe
U-Th-Pb dating
This dating was
done in 2000 by scientists from the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences,
Hiroshima University, Japan.78 According to isochron diagrams in the
original article, the meteorites true age is between 1200 and 1700 million
years old. 79 If we take the list of 207Pb/206Pb
ratios in this article 80 and run them through Isoplot we get the
dates as shown in table 37 below.
Table
37
Sample |
Pb-207/206 |
Pb-207/206 |
Name |
Ratio |
Age |
LAFA01.01 |
0.7907 |
4,905 |
LAFA03.01 |
0.3969 |
3,897 |
LAFA04.01 |
0.6561 |
4,637 |
LAFA04.02 |
0.6639 |
4,654 |
LAFA04.03 |
0.6898 |
4,710 |
LAFA05.01 |
0.7999 |
4,922 |
LAFA08.01 |
0.4505 |
4,087 |
LAFA09.01 |
0.7126 |
4,756 |
LAFA10.01 |
0.6506 |
4,625 |
Y-000593.1 |
0.9029 |
5,093 |
Y-000593.2 |
0.7225 |
4,776 |
Y-000593.3-1 |
1.0819 |
5,348 |
Y-000593.3-2 |
0.8453 |
5,000 |
Y-000593.4 |
0.7097 |
4,750 |
Y-000593.5 |
0.6311 |
4,581 |
Y-000749.1 |
0.7842 |
4,893 |
Y-000749.3 |
0.9092 |
5,103 |
Y-000749.4 |
0.7529 |
4,835 |
Y-000749.5-1 |
0.8569 |
5,019 |
The Chondritic
Meteorite Orvinio
Scientists from
Arizona, Massachusetts, New Mexico and Florida performed this dating in
2004.81 Four of the meteorites dated to be older than the
evolutionist age of the Solar System. 82 One date to be older than
the Big Bang. 82 The discordance between dates varied from hundreds
to thousands of percent in error. 82
Table
38
Table |
Max
Age |
Min
Age |
Difference |
Percentage |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
A1 |
17,178 |
570 |
16,608 |
2,914% |
A2 |
3,660 |
324 |
3,336 |
1,030% |
A3 |
3,720 |
703 |
3,017 |
429% |
A4 |
7,800 |
904 |
6,896 |
763% |
A5 |
7,100 |
922 |
6,178 |
670% |
A6 |
8,500 |
526 |
7,974 |
1,516% |
Martian
Meteorite Chronology
This meteorite
was dated in 2011 by scientists from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory,
Physical and Life Sciences, Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics,
California and the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences, University of New
Mexico. 83 The article states that the meteorites true age is 3.6
billion years. 84 If we take the list of 207Pb/206Pb
ratios in this article 85 and run them through Isoplot we get the
dates as shown in table 39 below.
Table
39
Sample |
Pb-207/206 |
Pb-207/206 |
Name |
Ratio |
Age |
Plag(R) |
0.751287431 |
4,832 |
Plag(L) |
0.787456711 |
4,899 |
Px(R) |
0.580150952 |
4,459 |
Px(L) |
0.699212521 |
4,729 |
WR(R) |
0.480536633 |
4,183 |
WR(L) |
0.489632855 |
4,210 |
Ilm |
0.498182294 |
4,236 |
Heated
Sample |
|
|
Plag(R) |
0.773980154 |
4,875 |
Plag(L) |
0.640266469 |
4,602 |
Plag-rej |
0.61697479 |
4,548 |
Px(R) |
0.655620155 |
4,636 |
Px(L) |
0.623966942 |
4,565 |
Px-rej |
0.565672185 |
4,422 |
WR(R) |
0.500867867 |
4,244 |
WR(L) |
0.515289324 |
4,286 |
Ilm |
0.498417311 |
4,237 |
NBS-981 |
0.913501361 |
5,110 |
FaradayDaly |
0.913967671 |
5,111 |
39Ar/40Ar
ages in Martian Shergottites
I downloaded
this table from the official Meteoritics website. 86 Six of the
meteorites were dated as being well over five billion years old. One was dated
as being as old as the evolutionist age of the Milky Way Galaxy.
86
Table
40
Sample |
Max
Age |
Min
Age |
Difference |
Percentage |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
Los
Angeles Plag |
4,569 |
183 |
4,387 |
2,404% |
Los
Angeles, WR |
1,270 |
156 |
1,114 |
714% |
Los
Angeles Pyx |
7,432 |
581 |
6,851 |
1,180% |
NWA-3171
Plag |
2,484 |
203 |
2,281 |
1,121% |
NWA-3171
Glass |
2,056 |
299 |
1,757 |
588% |
NWA-2975
Plag |
5,709 |
262 |
5,447 |
2,080% |
Dhofar
019 Plag |
10,150 |
453 |
9,697 |
2,140% |
Dhofar
019 WR |
7,791 |
614 |
7,177 |
1,170% |
DaG476
Plag |
3,378 |
432 |
2,946 |
681% |
DAG
476 WR |
5,889 |
980 |
4,909 |
501% |
DaG476-Px-Dark |
7,975 |
1,746 |
6,229 |
357% |
DaG476-Px-Light |
4,117 |
391 |
3,726 |
953% |
NWA-1068 WR |
2,524 |
61 |
2,463 |
4,043% |
SAU-005
WR |
3,988 |
-0.4619 |
3,988 |
863,490% |
Y-980459
WR |
1,784 |
583 |
1,201 |
206% |
Argon Dating Of
Chondrites
I downloaded
this table from the official Meteoritics website. 87 Four of the
meteorites were dated as being well over five billion years old. One was dated
as being older than the evolutionist age of the Milky Way Galaxy.
87
Table
41
Meteorite |
Maximum
Age |
Minimum
Age |
Difference |
Percentage |
Name |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Difference |
Caddo
#5 |
12.55 |
4.22 |
8.33 |
197% |
EET833,5
|
6.82 |
2.21 |
4.60 |
208% |
Udei
Station |
4.52 |
1.43 |
3.09 |
216% |
Campo
del Cielo |
7.71 |
3.40 |
4.31 |
127% |
Kendall
Co. |
7.59 |
2.06 |
5.53 |
269% |
Isotopic Lead
Ages Of Meteorites
This
dating was done in 1973 by scientist from Switzerland and California. 88
The dates 89 below in table 42 give numerous values much older
than the so called age of the Solar System.
Table
42
Meteorite |
206Pb/238U |
207Pb/235U |
207Pb/206Pb |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Bruderheim-1 |
4126 |
4447 |
4647 |
Bruderheim-2 |
4542 |
4592 |
4628 |
Bruderheim-3 |
4959 |
4703 |
4605 |
|
|
|
4,613 |
Richardton-1 |
8615 |
5602 |
4604 |
|
|
|
4,638 |
Richardton-2 |
6834 |
5230 |
4633 |
|
|
|
4,616 |
Pultusk |
5334 |
4939 |
4657 |
|
|
|
4,651 |
If we take the
list of 207Pb/206Pb
ratios in this article 90 and run them through Isoplot we get the
dates as shown in table 39 below.
Table
43
Meteorite |
206Pb/204Pb |
207Pb/204Pb |
207Pb/206Pb |
207Pb/206Pb |
Name |
Amount |
Amount |
Ratio |
Age |
Allende-I |
1,064 |
1,088 |
1.0226 |
5,269 |
Allende-II |
1,012 |
1,078 |
1.0652 |
5,326 |
Murchison |
977 |
1,056 |
1.0809 |
5,346 |
|
985 |
1,062 |
1.0782 |
5,343 |
Mezo-Madaras |
9,449 |
10,384 |
1.0990 |
5,370 |
|
9,444 |
10,356 |
1.0966 |
5,367 |
Bruderheim-I |
3,562 |
2,683 |
0.7532 |
4,836 |
Bruderheim-ll |
3,023 |
2,327 |
0.7698 |
4,867 |
Bruderheim-III |
3,275 |
2,469 |
0.7539 |
4,837 |
|
3,733 |
2,741 |
0.7343 |
4,799 |
Richardton-I |
2,155 |
1,794 |
0.8325 |
4,978 |
|
2,187 |
1,796 |
0.8212 |
4,959 |
Richardton-ll |
2,228 |
1,827 |
0.8200 |
4,957 |
|
2,571 |
2,050 |
0.7974 |
4,917 |
Pultusk |
2,045 |
1,732 |
0.8469 |
5,003 |
|
2,180 |
1,820 |
0.8349 |
4,982 |
U-Pb and
207Pb-206Pb ages of Eucrites
This dating was
done in 2005 by scientists from the Antarctic Meteorite Research Centre, Tokyo,
Japan. 91 Several dates 92 give ages much greater than the
absolute age of 4.5 billion years for the age of the Solar
System.
Table
44
Meteorite |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Average |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Yamato-75011 |
5,070 |
4,548 |
4,863 |
Yamato-792510 |
5,300 |
4,613 |
4,899 |
Asuka-881388 |
4,825 |
3,847 |
4,404 |
Asuka-881467 |
4,911 |
4,569 |
4,673 |
Padvalninkai |
5,223 |
3,102 |
4,537 |
40Ar/39Ar Dating Of
Desert Meteorites
Dated
in 2005 by scientists 93 from Germany and Russia, these meteorite
samples gave astounding results. Many dates were older than the evolutionist age
of the Solar System. 94
Table
45
Sample
Name |
Million
Years |
Table
A1. Dhofar 007 whole rock. |
7,632 |
|
6,033 |
|
5,498 |
|
|
Table
A2. Dhofar 007 plagioclase. |
7,582 |
|
7,011 |
|
4,753 |
|
4,741 |
|
|
Table
A3. Dhofar 300 whole rock. |
9,015 |
|
8,485 |
|
5,516 |
|
5,137 |
|
|
Table
A5. Dhofar 300 pyroxene |
8,957 |
|
6,064 |
|
5,656 |
|
4,998 |
|
4,720 |
|
|
Table
A5. Dhofar 300 plagioclase. |
9,680 |
|
5,793 |
|
5,721 |
|
5,395 |
|
5,237 |
|
5,035 |
|
4,788 |
Northwest Africa
482
These meteorites
were dated in 2002 by scientists from the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory,
University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona. 95 Many
dates were older than the evolutionist age of the Solar System.
96
Table
46
Bulk
Sample |
Million
Years |
|
9,670 |
|
8,560 |
|
8,127 |
|
6,256 |
|
|
Glass
Sample |
Million
Years |
|
9,905 |
|
7,388 |
|
5,708 |
Conclusion
Brent Dalrymple
states in his anti creationist book The Age of the Earth: Several
events in the formation of the Solar System can be dated with considerable
precision. 97
Looking at some
of the dating it is obvious that precision is much lacking. He then goes on:
Biblical chronologies are historically important, but their credibility began
to erode in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries when it became apparent to
some that it would be more profitable to seek a realistic age for the Earth
through observation of nature than through a literal interpretation of
parables. 98
I his book he
gives a table 99 with
radiometric dates of twenty meteorites. If you run the figures through Microsoft
Excel, you will find that they are 98.7% in agreement. There is only a seven
percent difference between the ratio of the smallest and oldest
dates.
As we have seen
in this essay, such a perfect fit is attained by selecting data and ignoring
other data. A careful study of the latest research shows that such perfection is
illusionary at best.
The Bible
believer who accepts the creation account literally has no problem with such
unreliable dating methods. Much of the data in Dalrymples book is selectively
taken to suit and ignores data to the contrary.
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