Rocks Older Than The Earth

By Paul Nethercott

May 2012

 

How reliable is radiometric dating? We are repeatedly told that it proves the Earth to be billions of years old. If radiometric dating is reliable than it should not contradict the evolutionary model. According to the Big Bang theory the age of the Universe is 10 to 15 billion years.1 Standard evolutionist publications give the age of the universe as 13.75 Billion years. 2, 3

 

Standard evolutionist geology views the Earth as being 4.5 billion years old. Here are some quotes from popular text: “The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years.” 4 The Solar System, formed between 4.53 and 4.58 billion years ago.” 1 “The age of 4.54 billion years found for the Solar System and Earth.” 1 “A valid age for the Earth of 4.55 billion years.” 5, 6

 

Evolutionists give the age of the galaxy as “11 to 13 billion years for the age of the Milky Way Galaxy.” 1, 7 Let us remember this as we look at the following dating as given in secular science journals.

 

 

Broken Hill, New South Wales

These rocks were dated 8 in 1981 using the 40Ar / 39Ar dating method. According to the dates obtained, many of the rocks are older than the Earth and Solar System. Some of the rocks are as old as the galaxy itself.  The author of the article comments:

 

“It has been argued already that the high initial ages in the release patterns of both hornblende and plagioclase can be translated into a concentration of excess 40Ar. Concentrations for those samples analysed by the 40Ar / 39Ar spectrum method are given in Table 5, and can be used to estimate the partition coefficient of Ar between hornblende and plagioclase.” 9

 

“Excess 40Ar was incorporated into minerals during the 520-Ma event at a temperature of about 350°C.” 10

 

There is no way of proving this assumption. It is just an excuse for such ridiculous ages of geological system that supposedly formed between 1,600 and 500 million years ago. 11 The data in tables 1 to 6 shows ages 12 greater than the age of the Solar System.

 

Table 1

Temperature

Age

Age

40Ar/39Ar

Million Years

Category

Plagioclase

 

 

700

7,473

Older Than Solar System

650

5,753

Older Than Solar System

B80

6,185

Older Than Solar System

1230

5,244

Older Than Solar System

1250

5,191

Older Than Solar System

FUSE

5,721

Older Than Solar System

Hornblende

 

 

470

5,050

Older Than Solar System

530

4,802

Older Than Earth

Ages from 4,802 to 7,473 million years old.


 

Table 2

Temperature

Age

Age

40Ar/39Ar

Million Years

Category

TF

5,170

Older Than Solar System

350

6,931

Older Than Solar System

430

7,015

Older Than Solar System

490

6,611

Older Than Solar System

540

6,167

Older Than Solar System

590

5,050

Older Than Solar System

1060

4,637

Older Than Earth

1080

4,929

Older Than Earth

1100

5,171

Older Than Solar System

1200

6,037

Older Than Solar System

FUSE

7,010

Older Than Solar System

Ages from 4,637 to 7,015 million years old.

 

Table 3

Temperature

Age

Age

40Ar/39Ar

Million Years

Category

Clinopyroxene

 

 

1040

4,704

Older Than Earth

1090

4,970

Older Than Earth

1070

4,989

Older Than Earth

1120

4,767

Older Than Earth

FUSE

5,373

Older Than Solar System

Ages from 4,704 to 5,373 million years old.

 

Table 4

Temperature

Age

Age

40Ar/39Ar

Million Years

Category

TF

6,730

Older Than Solar System

350

7,317

Older Than Solar System

440

5,055

Older Than Solar System

520

4,861

Older Than Earth

580

5,075

Older Than Solar System

650

4,973

Older Than Earth

930

5,409

Older Than Solar System

970

6,795

Older Than Solar System

1000

7,587

Older Than Solar System

1030

6,960

Older Than Solar System

1060

6,799

Older Than Solar System

1070

6,511

Older Than Solar System

1090

7,257

Older Than Solar System

1140

7,823

Older Than Solar System

1170

7,666

Older Than Solar System

1300

9,588

Older Than Solar System

1380

8,432

Older Than Solar System

FUSE

7,234

Older Than Solar System

Ages from 4,861 to 9,588 million years old.

 

 

Table 5


Temperature

Age

Age

40Ar/39Ar

Million Years

Category

Plagioclase

 

 

710

7,653

Older Than Solar System

770

6,484

Older Than Solar System

800

7,367

Older Than Solar System

820

6,709

Older Than Solar System

Hornblende

 

 

550

5,068

Older Than Solar System

620

4,777

Older Than Earth

Ages from 4,777 to 7,653 million years old.

 

Table 6

Temperature

Age

Age

40Ar/39Ar

Million Years

Category

Plagioclase

 

 

360

5,748

Older Than Solar System

550

5,459

Older Than Solar System

840

5,998

Older Than Solar System

Hornblende

 

 

960

9,681

Older Than Solar System

960

9,582

Older Than Solar System

990

9,852

Older Than Solar System

Muscovite

 

 

560

9,521

Older Than Solar System

Ages from 5,459 to 9,852 million years old.

 

The data in table 7 shows 13 ages older than the Earth and Solar System.

 

Table 7


Sample

Mineral

Age

Number

Type

Million Years

79-173

Plagioclase

5,800

79-173

Hornblende

5,300

79-459

Hornblende

5,500

79-459

Plagioclase

7,000

79-461

Hornblende

5,500

79-461

Plagioclase

7,300

Ages from 5,300 to 7,300 million years old.

 

 

Ages In The Allende Meteorite

This dating was done in 1983 14 and gave ages between 2,990 and 8,880 million years old. 15 The author discusses the problem and proposed solutions:

 

“The existence in the Allende meteorite of coarse-grained Ca-Al-rich inclusions (CAI) with 40Ar/39Ar apparent ages exceeding the age of the solar system was reported by Jessberger and Dominik [1] and Jessberger et al. [2] and confirmed by Herzog et al. [3].” 16

 

Table 8

Sample

Age A

Age B

Name

Million Years

Million Years

EGG 1

 

 

700

5,070

 

1000

5,190

 

1200

4,730

 

1650

4,570

 

Total

4,860

4,800

EGG 2

 

 

700

7,370

 

1000

4,670

 

1200

3,430

 

1650

4,510

 

Total

4,470

4,470

EGG 3

 

 

700

8,880

 

1000

6,450

 

1200

2,990

 

1650

5,660

 

Total

5,930

5,020

Ages from 2,990 to 8,880 million years old.

 

 

Below [Table 9] we can see some more dating 17 that was done on the same meteorite by Herzog in 1980. He give three possible reasons 18 why the dates are in such conflict with the standard evolutionary model:

 

1

“The coarse-grained Ca-Al-rich inclusions are really older than 4.6 G.y., associated with in situ decay of K in pre-solar dust.”

 

2

“The excess Argon 40 and Argon 36 could be due to atmospheric contamination.”

 

3

“The excess 40 and the trapped 36 may have come from the degassing of matrix and/or rim material sometime in the interval 3.6 - 4.1 G.y. ago.”

 

Table 9

Mineral

Age

Error

System

Million Years

Million Years

Vein

8,500

700

Spinel

6,900

800

Vein

5,250

140

Spinel

6,400

500

Bulk

5,120

20

Bulk

5,100

100

01. Skel.

6,290

10

Ages from 5,100 to 8,500 million years old.

 

 

U-Th-Pb, Sm-Nd And Rb-Sr Model Ages

Below we can see some more dating 19 that was done on some Moon rocks by Oberli in 1978. Oberli states 20 that the U-Th-Pb data is concordant but the Neodymium dates are uncertain. Again it is just an arbitrary choice he makes as to which date is certain and which date is not.

 

Table 10

Sample

Pb-206/Pb-207

Pb-206/U-238

Pb-208/Th-232

Nd-143/Nd-144

Rb-87/Sr-86

Number

Million Years

Million Years

Million Years

Million Years

Million Years

66075, 11D

5,371

7,794

8,280

 

 

66075, 11

5,358

7,740

8,375

4,530

4,240

Ages from 4,240 to 8,375 million years old.

 

 

Gerontology Of The Allende Meteorite

This article appeared 21 in Nature magazine in 1979. Jessberger admits that the wildly discordant ages cannot be due to normal processes:

 

In the Allende meteorite several elements are found to have an isotopic composition that cannot be due to radioactive or spallation or fractionation processes.22

 

“In the most widely accepted theory a supernova triggered the collapse of the solar nebula, and the anomalously high ages would be due to an enhanced 40K/39K isotopic ratio produced in the explosive carbon burning shell of the supernova? In another, controversial interpretation these ages could have chronological significance, as here the presolar grains are relicts from various old stellar nucleosynthetic and condensation processes unrelated to the formation of the Solar System.” 22

 

He then quotes several 23, 24, 25 science journals for an explanation. He thinks the ages could be residue from an ancient supernova or contamination for pre galactic dust not related to the formation of the Solar System. Again, like Oberli his solution is totally unprovable. How would you test such a hypothesis? Some of the dates are older than the galaxy. How do we know that Earth rocks have not been contaminated in such a way? During the formation of the Solar System, the Earth might have absorbed such materials. His choice of “true” ages is just guess and not provable science.

 

Table 11

Meteorite

Age

Error

Age

Error

Sample 17

Million Years

Million Years

Million Years

Million Years

500

7,680

80

4,960

420

580

5,830

80

4,600

160

660

5,350

40

4,970

60

740

5,090

20

4,970

40

820

5,080

40

4,990

60

890

5,210

40

5,210

40

950

4,970

60

4,970

60

1,010

4,970

30

4,970

30

1,070

5,340

40

5,340

40

1,130

5,540

20

5,430

40

1,200

6,210

100

5,250

240

1,280

5,190

190

1,460

1,480

1,380

7,200

590

2,670

5,650

Total

5,500

20

5,120

60

Ages from 1,460 to 7,680 million years old.

 

Table 12

Meteorite

Age

Error

Age

Error

Sample 18

Million Years

Million Years

Million Years

Million Years

450

11,010

60

4,520

2,240

580

8,060

140

4,470

500

670

7,500

40

4,970

160

750

6,310

30

4,900

90

830

5,370

20

5,130

60

900

4,960

40

4,960

40

970

4,900

40

4,900

40

1,040

4,890

40

4,890

40

1,110

4,900

30

4,900

30

1,190

4,820

20

4,820

20

1,300

5,370

100

5,370

100

Total

6,050

40

5,080

50

Ages from 4,470 to 11,010 million years old.

 

Pre Cambrian Earth Rocks

This dating 26 was done in 2005 at the Heidelberg University in Germany. The author comments on the cause for such absurd dates:

 

The bulk 40Ar/36Ar ratio is more radiogenic than atmospheric composition, indicating—in addition to an atmospheric component— the presence of a slight but detectable contribution of an excess 40Ar component, i.e., 40Ar trapped from an external source, because it cannot be due to in situ decay of 40K. This circumstance is indicated by the very high apparent ages (up to 5 Ga) of the irradiated type I shungite (Appendix Table A1).27

 

Below we can see some of the dates 28 given in the article. Several dates are older than the theory of evolution allows:

 

Table 13

Sample

Age

Error

Temperature

Million

Million

Centigrade

Years

Years

820

4,964

239

850

4,916

114

880

5,269

120

910

5,804

123

940

5,425

109

970

4,843

114

1070

5,054

205

Ages from 4,843 to 5,804 million years old.

 

 

Mount Isa, Queensland

These rocks were dated in 2006 by Mark Kendrick 29from the University of Melbourne. The data in tables 12 to 17 shows ages 30 of Earth rocks from 4,700 to 10,000 million years old.

 

Table 14

Sample

Million

Age

Eloise Mine

Years

Category

Cr-2

5,620

Older Than Solar System

Cr-3

5,511

Older Than Solar System

300

6,127

Older Than Solar System

1400

5,370

Older Than Solar System

Total

4,804

Older Than Earth

Ages from 4,804 to 5,620 million years old.

 

Table 15

Sample

Million

Age

Eloise Mine

Years

Category

250

6,442

Older Than Solar System

350

6,393

Older Than Solar System

450

4,931

Older Than Earth

1200

4,760

Older Than Earth

Total

4,777

Older Than Earth

Ages from 4,760 to 6,442 million years old.

 

Table 16

Sample

Million

Age

Eloise Mine

Years

Category

200

7,412

Older Than Solar System

250

9,969

Older Than Galaxy

300

8,655

Older Than Solar System

350

5,871

Older Than Solar System

400

6,568

Older Than Solar System

450

6,060

Older Than Solar System

1200

5,201

Older Than Solar System

1300

4,805

Older Than Earth

1400

5,049

Older Than Solar System

Total

5,601

Older Than Solar System

Ages from 4,805 to 9,969 million years old.

 

Table 17

Sample

Million

Age

Osborne Mine

Years

Category

300

7,715

Older Than Solar System

 

Table 18

Sample

Million

Age

Railway Fault

Years

Category

200

5,176

Older Than Solar System

350

4,759

Older Than Earth

 

Table 19

Sample

Million

Age

Railway Fault

Years

Category

Cr

4,844

Older Than Earth

Cr

4,883

Older Than Earth

Cr

5,418

Older Than Solar System

Cr

5,238

Older Than Solar System

Ages from 4,844 to 5,418 million years old.

 

 

Conclusion

Brent Dalrymple states:

 

“Several events in the formation of the Solar System can be dated with considerable precision.” 31

 

Looking at some of the dating it is obvious that precision is much lacking. He then goes on:

 

“Biblical chronologies are historically important, but their credibility began to erode in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries when it became apparent to some that it would be more profitable to seek a realistic age for the Earth through observation of nature than through a literal interpretation of parables.” 32

 

The Bible believer who accepts the creation account literally has no problem with such unreliable dating methods. Much of the data in Dalrymple’s book is selectively taken to suit and ignores data to the contrary.

 

 

References

 

1              http://web.archive.org/web/20051223072700/http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.html

The age of 10 to 15 billion years for the age of the Universe.

 

2              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universe

 

3              http://arxiv.org/pdf/1001.4744v1.pdf

Microwave Anisotropy Probe Observations, Page 39, By N. Jarosik

 

4              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

 

5              http://sp.lyellcollection.org/content/190/1/205

The age of the Earth, G. Brent Dalrymple

Geological Society, London, Special Publications, January 1, 2001, Volume 190, Pages 205-221

 

6              The age of the earth, Gérard Manhes, Earth and Planetary Science Letters, Volume 47, Issue 3,

                May 1980, Pages 370–382

 

7              http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0506458v1.pdf

The age of the Galactic disk, By E. F. del Peloso and L. da Silva

Astronomy & Astrophysics, Manuscript no. 3307, February 2, 2008

 

8              Excess 40Ar in metamorphic rocks from Broken Hill, By T. Mark Harrison

Earth and Planetary Science Letters, 1981, Volume 55, Pages 123 - 149

 

9              Reference 8, Page 141

 

10           Reference 8, Page 147

 

11           Reference 8, Page 124

 

12           Reference 8, Page 128 – 133

 

13           Reference 8, Page 137

 

14           Ages in Allende Inclusions, By I. M. Villa

Earth and Planetary Science Letters, 1983, Volume 63, Pages 1 – 12

 

15           Reference 14, Page 5

 

16           Reference 14, Page 1

 

17           39Ar -40Ar Systematics Of Allende Inclusions, Page 3, By G. F. Herzog

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1980/pdf/1155.pdf

 

18           Reference 17, Page 2.

 

19           U-Th-Pb, Sm-Nd And Rb-Sr Model Ages, Page 833, By F. Oberli

                http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1978/pdf/1289.pdf

 

20           Reference 19, Pages 832, 834

 

21           Gerontology of the Allende meteorite, By Elmar K. Jessberger

Nature, 1979, Volume 277, Pages 554 - 556

 

22           Reference 21, Page 554

 

23           Cameron, A, G. W. & Truran. J. W. Icarus, 1977, Volume 30, Page 447.

 

24           Clayton D, D, Nature, 1975, Volume 257, Page 36.

 

25           Clayton D. D., Earth Planetary Science Letters, 1977, Volume 36, Page 381.

 

26           Argon isotope fractionation, By Mario Trieloff

Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta, 2005, Volume 69, Number 5, Pages 1253–1264

 

27           Reference 26, Page 1254

 

28           Reference 26, Page 1263

 

29           Evaluation of 40Ar–39Ar quartz ages, By M.A. Kendrick

Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta, 2006, Volume 70, Pages 2562–2576

 

30           Reference 29, Pages 2573-2575

 

31           The Age Of The Earth, By G. Brent Dalrymple, 1991, Stanford University Press, Stanford, California, Page 10.

 

32           Reference 31, Page 23

 

 

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