Rocks Older Than
The Universe
By Paul
Nethercott
May
2012
How
reliable is radiometric dating? We are repeatedly told that it proves the Earth
to be billions of years old. If radiometric dating is reliable than it should
not contradict the evolutionary model. According to the Big Bang theory the age
of the Universe is 10 to 15 billion years.1 Standard evolutionist
publications give the age of
the universe as 13.75 Billion years. 2, 3
Standard
evolutionist geology views the Earth as being 4.5 billion years old. Here are
some quotes from popular text: The age
of the Earth is 4.54
± 0.05 billion years.
4 The
Solar System, formed between 4.53 and 4.58 billion years ago. 1 The age of 4.54 billion years
found for the Solar System and Earth. 1 A
valid age for the Earth of 4.55 billion years.
5, 6
How can Earth
rocks be dated as being older than the Big Bang? Here are quotes from several
articles taken from major geology magazines which give absolutely absurd
dates.
Trillion Year
Old Rocks!
These rocks from
Black Hills, South Dakota were dated in 1970 giving ridiculous dates. The oldest
[Trillion Years!] is 60 times older than the Big Bang explosion. The article
simply says: Anomalous age data for pegmatite minerals.7
Table
1
Table
5. |
|
Rb-Sr
Date |
Rb-Sr
Date |
Sample/Mines
Mineral |
Mineral
Type |
Million
Years |
Billion
Years |
Hugo
Mine |
Albite
|
7,100 |
7 |
Hugo
Mine |
Apatite
|
900,000 |
900 |
Hugo
Mine |
Lithiophyllite
|
53,000 |
53 |
Tin
Mountain |
Montebraeite |
36,000 |
36 |
Tin
Mountain |
Apatite
|
75,000 |
75 |
Bob
Ingersoll Mine |
Montebrasite |
81,000 |
81 |
Bob
Ingersoll Mine |
Apatite |
460,000 |
460 |
Rocks 18 Billion
Years Old
This
rock was from the Great Northern Peninsula, Newfoundland. It was dated in 1974.
As the article says: The most striking of these is the consistent pattern of
anomalously high apparent ages obtained for high temperature fractions (i.e.
fraction s corresponding to temperatures > 925-950°C). These anomalously high
apparent ages almost certainly reflect the presence of excess radiogenic argon.
The table in the article 9 lists 11 rock samples with
radical discordant dates. The first two rocks have internal ages varying between
the youngest and oldest by a factor of 2000% and 1000%
respectively.
Table
2
Maximum
Age |
Minimum
Age |
Difference |
Difference |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Percentage |
18,620 |
651 |
17,969 |
2,760% |
Rocks 80 Billion
Years Old!
Some of these
rocks have been dated to be five times older than the Big Bang
explosion!
These rocks from
Yucca Mountain, Nevada were dated in 2008 by UThPb dating
method.
Table
3
Sample |
Pb-206/U-238 |
Pb-208/Th-232 |
Error |
Difference |
Number |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Percentage |
HD2059Pb4-Cc |
1,738 |
12,900 |
4,040 |
7,963 |
HD2089APb1-Cc1 |
7,940 |
|
|
|
HD2089APb1-Cc2a |
6,372 |
|
|
|
HD2089APb1-Cc2b |
7,504 |
|
|
|
HD2089APb1-Cc2c |
6,292 |
|
|
|
HD2089APb1-Cc3 |
4,423 |
28,600 |
7,700 |
647 |
HD2177Pb1-Cc |
20,209 |
1,555 |
140 |
7,296 |
HD2233Pb1-Ch2 |
8 |
82,030 |
180,500 |
1,986,199 |
HD2233Pb2-Ch2 |
7 |
57,900 |
40,800 |
1,153,386 |
As we can see
form the table below that some of the dates are almost 2 million percent
discordant. That means that the dating methods can give ages for the same rock
that vary by a factor of 20,000. One part of the rock is dated as being 20,000
times older than another.
Table
4
Sample |
Difference |
Sample |
Difference |
Number |
Percentage |
Number |
Percentage |
HD2098Pb3-Cc |
1,094 |
HD2059Pb4-Cc |
7,963 |
HD2074Pb2-Cc1 |
1,224 |
HD2062Pb1-Cc |
12,772 |
HD2055Pb11-Cc |
1,246 |
HD2074Pb1-Cc3 |
44,828 |
HD2062Pb2-Cc |
1,311 |
HD2089APb1-Cc1 |
49,625 |
HD2055Pb12-Op |
1,467 |
HD2089APb1-Cc2b |
50,027 |
HD2055Pb12-Cc |
1,584 |
HD2089APb1-Cc2c |
69,911 |
HD2089APb2-Cc |
1,970 |
HD2155Pb1-Cc |
121,400 |
HD2109Pb1-Cc |
2,083 |
HD2055Pb11-Op |
195,100 |
HD2065Pb4-Cc |
2,691 |
HD2233Pb2-Ch2 |
1,153,386 |
HD2177Pb1-Cc |
7,296 |
HD2233Pb1-Ch2 |
1,986,199 |
Rocks
22 Billion Years
Old
This dating was
done in 1990 on rocks from the Ouzzal granite unit in Algeria. Maluski used
Argon dating and it gave dates over 22 billion years old.12
Table
5
Sample |
Maximum
Age |
Minimum
Age |
Average
Age |
Age
Difference |
Percent |
Name |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Difference |
A.
TEK 58 plagioclase 1 |
13,435 |
1,800 |
7,043 |
11,635 |
746% |
B.
TEK 58 plagioclase 2 |
8,071 |
2,446 |
6,024 |
5,625 |
329% |
C.
TEK 58 plagioclase 3 |
15,407 |
1,214 |
3,857 |
14,193 |
1,269% |
D.
TEK 58 plagioclase 4 |
10,776 |
1,800 |
4,650 |
8,976 |
598% |
E.
TEK 58 pyroxene |
11,621 |
5,744 |
9,909 |
5,877 |
202% |
F.
TEK 58 biotite |
4,522 |
1,700 |
2,147 |
2,822 |
266% |
G.
TEK 58 garnet |
22,090 |
3,716 |
11,685 |
18,374 |
594% |
Below we can see
in table 6 some of the extremely discordant dates.
Table
6
A.
Plagioclase 1 |
B.
Plagioclase 2 |
C.
Plagioclase 3 |
D.
Plagioclase 4 |
E.
Pyroxene |
G.
Garnet |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
5,062 |
5,008 |
6,045 |
5,360 |
9,150 |
7,361 |
6,027 |
5,410 |
7,995 |
5,564 |
9,276 |
8,311 |
6,303 |
5,712 |
11,804 |
6,424 |
9,564 |
8,906 |
6,489 |
5,739 |
15,407 |
6,452 |
9,684 |
10,232 |
7,492 |
5,892 |
|
7,318 |
9,874 |
10,310 |
9,228 |
5,983 |
|
7,689 |
9,899 |
10,790 |
11,783 |
6,453 |
|
10,776 |
9,943 |
11,448 |
13,263 |
6,785 |
|
|
10,097 |
11,568 |
13,287 |
6,939 |
|
|
10,102 |
11,961 |
13,435 |
7,372 |
|
|
10,314 |
12,780 |
|
7,779 |
|
|
10,521 |
13,750 |
|
8,071 |
|
|
10,578 |
14,689 |
|
|
|
|
10,610 |
16,224 |
|
|
|
|
10,617 |
19,945 |
|
|
|
|
10,685 |
20187 |
|
|
|
|
10,729 |
20,272 |
|
|
|
|
10,736 |
20,742 |
|
|
|
|
10,873 |
22,090 |
|
|
|
|
10,889 |
|
|
|
|
|
11,041 |
|
|
|
|
|
11,288 |
|
|
|
|
|
11,382 |
|
|
|
|
|
11,389 |
|
|
|
|
|
11,396 |
|
|
|
|
|
11,621 |
|
Maluski
comments: "Apparent ages as old as l0 - 11 Ga are obtained between 450 and 1100
C, which implies that the excess component is widely distributed over all the
sites without a preferential location. The internal age discordance is mainly
due to the low amount and variability of 39Ar released at each temperature
increment. This is probably because K occurs as microscopic impurities within
pyroxene, the degassing of which is very irregular." 12
Volcanic Rocks
15 Billion Years Old
The article
describes Rubidium-Strontium dating of volcanic rocks in the Highwood Mountains
and Eagle Buttes, Montana, U.S.A. This was performed in 1994. Ages 13 greater than the Big Bang
date were obtained.
Table
7
6.46 |
Billion
Years Old |
6.83 |
Billion
Years Old |
10.8 |
Billion
Years Old |
15.5 |
Billion
Years Old |
These
extreme isotopic
These
extreme isotopic characteristics are accompanied by parent daughter ratios that
give all the Highwood peridotites old model ages (Rb-Sr, 2.14-15.5 Ga; Sm-Nd,
2.78-6.83 Ga; Table 1) compared to the other ultramafic samples.
14
15 Billion Years
Old
This article 15 refers to dating of
xenoliths from the Kaapvaal craton in South Africa. These rocks were dated in
1995. Pearsons explanation is: For example,
several of the peridotite Re/Os model ages calculated using measured 187-Re/
188-Os (TM, in Table 2) either give geologically unreasonable ages or do not
intersect the Bulk Earth evolution line at all. Walker et al. [14] reasoned that
the highly refractory compositions of Kaapvaal peridotites could have led to
complete removal of Re during formation.16
Table
8
8.5 |
Billion
Years Old |
10.2 |
Billion
Years Old |
11.1 |
Billion
Years Old |
15.6 |
Billion
Years Old |
Moon Rocks 28
Billion Years Old
The following
dating was done in 1972. Table Nine 18 gives ages twice as old as the
Big Bang explosion date. Table Ten 19 gives ages twice as old as the
Moon and Solar System.
Table
9
Pb-207 |
Pb-206 |
Pb-207 |
Pb-208 |
Pb-206 |
U-238 |
U-235 |
Th-232 |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
5.58 |
9.21 |
6.43 |
24.92 |
5.65 |
8.73 |
6.39 |
23.50 |
5.43 |
10.28 |
6.54 |
28.14 |
Table
10
Pb-207 |
Pb-206 |
Pb-207 |
Pb-208 |
Pb-206 |
U-238 |
U-235 |
Th-232 |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
Billion
Years |
5.31 |
6.98 |
5.74 |
10.79 |
5.33 |
6.81 |
5.71 |
10.34 |
5.28 |
7.15 |
5.76 |
11.23 |
Rocks 23 Billion
Years Old
This article
describes Rubidium-Strontium dating of Precious Metal Veins of the Coeur DAlene
Mining District, Idaho. This dating 19 was done in 2002 and gave
ages over 20 billion years old.
Table
11
Sample |
Age
Million |
Difference |
Number |
Years |
Percentage |
858-07G |
4,475 |
|
858-07H |
1,727 |
159% |
858-07L |
7,816 |
|
858-07M |
1,195 |
554% |
858-07U |
971 |
|
858-07V |
2,630 |
171% |
858-08C |
1,855 |
|
858-08D |
6,105 |
229% |
858-08AA |
3,028 |
|
858-08AB |
588 |
415% |
858-09D |
1,490 |
|
858-09E |
754 |
98% |
858-09F |
2,453 |
|
858-09G |
682 |
259% |
858-09J |
719 |
|
858-09K |
2,696 |
274% |
858-09L |
395 |
|
858-09M |
1,465 |
270% |
918-13A |
278 |
|
918-13B |
2,209 |
694% |
918-13C |
23,312 |
|
918-13D |
968 |
2308% |
918-15L |
873 |
|
918-15M |
4,291 |
391% |
The samples are
in pairs. Each pair is taken from the exact same location. Some dates are
between two and twenty three times discordant for the one rock. The one dating
method will give two different dates for the same rock! One date is twenty three
times older than the younger one.
Conclusion
Even though it
is commonly claimed to be absolute proof of millions of years, there are many
problems with radiometric dating. The recently published Radioisotopes
& the Age of the Earth Earth's
Catastrophic Past and other
publications by young earth creationists shows that accepting a literal view of
the Genesis creation account and a young age of the earth can be defended
scientifically and old age successfully rebutted.
Exodus
20:8-11
8
Remember the
Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shall you labour, and do all
your work: 10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God: in
it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your
manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is
within your gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the
sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD
blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.
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