The Uranium 235
Dating Method
By Paul
Nethercott
August
2013
How
reliable is radiometric dating? We are repeatedly told that it proves the Earth
to be billions of years old. If radiometric dating is reliable than it should
not contradict the evolutionary model. According to the Big Bang theory the age
of the Universe is 10 to 15 billion years.1 Standard evolutionist
publications give the age of
the universe as 13.75 Billion years. 2, 3
Standard
evolutionist geology views the Earth as being 4.5 billion years old. Here are
some quotes from popular text: “The age
of the Earth is 4.54
± 0.05 billion years.”
4 “The
Solar System, formed between 4.53 and 4.58 billion years ago.” 1 “The age of 4.54 billion years
found for the Solar System and Earth.” 1 “A
valid age for the Earth of 4.55 billion years.” 5, 6
If we run the
isotopic ratios give in standard geology magazines through the computer program
Isoplot 7 we find that
the Uranium/Thorium/Lead isotopic ratios in the rocks disagree radically with
the Rubidium/Strontium ages. The U/Th/Pb ratios give ages older than the
evolutionist age of the Earth, Solar System, Galaxy and Universe. How can Earth
rocks be dated as being older than the Big Bang?
If we use
isotopic formulas 8-11
given in standard geology text we can arrive at ages from the Rb/Sr and Nd/Sm
ratios. The formula for Rb/Sr age is given as:
[1]
Where t equals the age in
years. l equals the
decay constant. (87Sr/86Sr) = the current isotopic ratio.
(87Sr/86Sr)0 = the initial isotopic ratio. (87Rb/86Sr) = the current
isotopic ratio. The same is true for the formula below.
[2]
Here are
examples of isotopic ratios taken from several articles in major geology
magazines which give absolutely absurd dates.
Petrogenesis of
the Flood Basalts
According to the
article 12 this basalt
form the Northern Kerguelen Archipelago was dated in 1998 by scientists from the
Massachusetts Institute Of Technology, University of Brussels, Belgium and the
San Diego State University. According to the essay: “The dominance of this
isotopic signature in archipelago lavas for 30 my and its presence in ~40 Ma
gabbros is consistent with the previous interpretation that these are isotopic
characteristics of the Kerguelen Plume." 12 Various tables 13 in the essay have
isotopic ratios which can be calculated. As we can see below they are all at
strong disagreement with each other. There is a spread of dates of over a 44
billion year range! None of the Uranium/Lead based dating methods even come
vaguely close to the so called true age.
Table
1
Mount
Bureau |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Summary |
207Pb/206Pb |
206Pb/238U |
207Pb/235U |
208Pb/232Th |
Average |
5,006 |
5,924 |
5,161 |
8,410 |
Maximum |
5,020 |
23,366 |
8,496 |
44,378 |
Minimum |
4,994 |
3,335 |
4,454 |
2,650 |
Difference |
26 |
20,031 |
4,042 |
41,728 |
Table
2
Mt.
Rabouillere |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Summary |
207Pb/206Pb |
206Pb/238U |
207Pb/235U |
208Pb/232Th |
Average |
5,008 |
4,903 |
4,975 |
6,142 |
Maximum |
5,019 |
5,355 |
5,100 |
7,788 |
Minimum |
5,000 |
4,305 |
4,793 |
2,799 |
Difference |
20 |
1,050 |
307 |
4,989 |
Nature of the
Source Regions
According to the
article 14 this lava from
southern Tibet was dated in 2004 by scientists from the Open University in
Milton Keynes, the University of Bristol and Cardiff University. According to
the essay: “Most samples are Miocene in age, ranging from 10 to 25Ma in the
south and 19Ma to the present day in northern Tibet." 15 Various tables 16 in the essay have
isotopic ratios which can be calculated. As we can see below they are all at
strong disagreement with each other. There is a spread of dates of over an 88
billion year range! None of the Uranium/Lead based dating methods even come
vaguely close to the so called true age.
Table
3
207Pb/235U
Age |
Model
Age |
Ratio |
Percentage |
5,136 |
0.5 |
10,273 |
10,272,962 |
5,138 |
0.5 |
10,275 |
10,275,154 |
5,135 |
13 |
395 |
395,000 |
5,140 |
18.5 |
278 |
277,839 |
7,470 |
13 |
575 |
574,597 |
7,471 |
12.5 |
598 |
597,649 |
Table
4
207Pb/235U
Age |
Model
Age |
Ratio |
Percentage |
313 |
24.0 |
13 |
13,026 |
946 |
13.8 |
69 |
68,534 |
266 |
13.8 |
19 |
19,267 |
238 |
13.8 |
17 |
17,265 |
294 |
13.3 |
22 |
22,095 |
447 |
18.8 |
24 |
23,757 |
482 |
17.3 |
28 |
27,878 |
Table
5
Statistics |
Maximum |
Minimum |
Difference |
208Pb/232Th |
88,294 |
4,826 |
83,469 |
206Pb/238U |
33,751 |
4,086 |
29,665 |
207Pb/235U |
7,471 |
238 |
7,232 |
207Pb/206Pb
|
4,994 |
4,919 |
75 |
Table
6
208Pb/232Th |
207Pb/235U |
207Pb/206Pb
|
206Pb/238U |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
11,420 |
5,136 |
4,980 |
7,783 |
11,350 |
5,138 |
4,980 |
8,023 |
13,475 |
5,135 |
4,987 |
8,305 |
11,504 |
5,140 |
4,989 |
7,349 |
81,614 |
7,470 |
4,987 |
33,751 |
88,294 |
7,471 |
4,991 |
33,742 |
North Tibet
Summary. Rb/Sr model age = 13 million years
Table
7
208Pb/232Th |
207Pb/235U |
207Pb/206Pb
|
206Pb/238U |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
Million
Years |
11,102 |
313 |
4,982 |
6,331 |
6,092 |
946 |
4,919 |
5,799 |
9,265 |
266 |
4,980 |
6,682 |
4,826 |
238 |
4,992 |
4,086 |
8,205 |
294 |
4,980 |
5,567 |
25,015 |
447 |
4,994 |
13,328 |
33,191 |
482 |
4,992 |
15,053 |
South Tibet
Summary. Rb/Sr model age = 13 million years
Generation of
Palaeocene Adakitic Andesites
According to the
article 17 this rock
formation from North Eastern China was dated in 2007 by scientists from China
and Japan. According to the essay the true age is: “Palaeocene (c. 55-58Ma)
adakitic andesites from the Yanji area." 17 Numerous table and charts
affirm this as the true age. 18 A table 19 in the essay have
isotopic ratios which can be calculated. As we can see below they are all at
radical disagreement with each other. There is a spread of dates of over 10
billion years! None of the Uranium/Lead based dating methods even come vaguely
close to the so called true age.
Table
8
207Pb/206Pb |
208Pb/232Th |
206Pb/238U |
207Pb/235U |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
5,024 |
10,518 |
9,669 |
6,052 |
5,023 |
10,277 |
9,552 |
6,051 |
5,023 |
8,529 |
9,526 |
6,051 |
5,023 |
8,360 |
8,443 |
5,828 |
5,021 |
8,165 |
7,929 |
5,826 |
5,020 |
7,800 |
7,403 |
5,641 |
Ivisaartoq
Greenstone Belt
According to the
article 20 this rock
formation from southern West Greenland was dated in 2007 by scientists from
Canada, Denmark, USA and Austria. According to the essay the true age is: “The
Mesoarchean (ca. 3075Ma) Ivisaartoq greenstone belt in southern West
Greenland." 20 A table 21 in the essay have
isotopic ratios which can be calculated. As we can see below they are all at
radical disagreement with each other. There is a spread of dates of over 3
billion years!
Table
9
207Pb/235U |
208Pb/232Th |
206Pb/238U |
207Pb/206Pb |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
5,288 |
2,671 |
2876 |
3082 |
5,162 |
2,860 |
2712 |
2998 |
5,299 |
2,586 |
2955 |
3046 |
5,407 |
2,305 |
3195 |
3059 |
5,302 |
2,726 |
2930 |
3067 |
Geophysical
Systems
According to the
article 22 this rock
formation was dated in 2003. A table 23 in the essay have
isotopic ratios which can be calculated. As we can see below they are all at
radical disagreement with each other. There is a spread of dates of over 82
billion years!
Table
10
Dating |
206Pb/238U |
207Pb/235U |
207Pb/206Pb |
208Pb/232Th |
87Rb/86Sr |
147Sm/144Nd |
Summary |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Average |
15,345 |
7,019 |
4,936 |
39,068 |
102 |
102 |
Maximum |
38,340 |
10,872 |
5,043 |
82,865 |
140 |
140 |
Minimum |
3,125 |
4,385 |
4,760 |
5,577 |
70 |
68 |
Std
Deviation |
9,657 |
1,750 |
63 |
27,390 |
16 |
17 |
History Of The
Pasamonte Achondrite
According to the
article this meteorite specimen was dated in 1977 by scientists from the United
States Geological Survey, Colorado and the Department of Chemistry and
Geochemistry, Colorado School of Mines. 24 The article states that
Rubidium/Strontium dating affirms that this material is 4.5 billion years old.
25 If we
run the various isotope ratios 25
from two different tables in the article through Microsoft Excel we
get the following values respectively:
Table
11
Summary |
206Pb/238U |
207Pb/235U |
207Pb/206Pb |
208Pb/232Th |
Average |
3,088 |
3,666 |
4,566 |
2,263 |
Maximum |
5,694 |
5,032 |
4,963 |
14,800 |
Minimum |
103 |
865 |
4,440 |
-10,700 |
Difference |
5,591 |
4,167 |
523 |
25,500 |
If
we run the 87Rb/86Sr isotope ratios 25 from the article through
Microsoft Excel we get the following values:
Table
12
Average |
4,403 |
Maximum |
6,674 |
Minimum |
2,412 |
Difference |
4,262 |
Rb/Sr Age Dating
Summary
The Thorium/Lead
dates are up to twelve billion years older. The so called true age is just a
guess.
An Extremely Low
U/Pb Source
According to the
article 26
this specimen
[lunar meteorite] was
dated in 1993 by scientists from the United States Geological Survey, Colorado, the United States
Geological Survey, California and The National Institute of Polar Research,
Tokyo. According
to the article: “The Pb-Pb internal isochron obtained for acid leached residues
of separated mineral fractions yields an age of 3940 ± 28 Ma, which is similar
to the U-Pb (3850 ± 150 Ma) and Th-Pb (3820 ± 290 Ma) internal isochron ages.
The Sm-Nd data for the mineral separates yield an internal isochron age of 3871
± 57 Ma and an initial 143Nd/I44Nd value of 0.50797 ± 10. The Rb-Sr data yield
an internal isochron age of 3840 ± 32 Ma.” 26
Table
13
Average |
3,619 |
Maximum |
5,385 |
Minimum |
721 |
Difference |
4,664 |
Rb/Sr Age Dating
Summary
Table
14
Table |
207Pb/206Pb |
206Pb/238U |
208Pb/232Th |
207Pb/235U |
Summaries |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Average |
4,673 |
8,035 |
10,148 |
4,546 |
Maximum |
5,018 |
56,923 |
65,286 |
8,128 |
Minimum |
3,961 |
1,477 |
2,542 |
2,784 |
Difference |
1,057 |
55,445 |
62,744 |
5,344 |
Uranium Age
Dating Summary
The article
claims that the Rb/Sr age is 3.8 billion years for this meteorite. If that is
the true age why are all the Uranium/Thorium/Lead dates 27
so stupid? Or are they right and the Rb/Sr 28
is wrong?
Table
15
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
65,286 |
14,430 |
9,094 |
5,401 |
33,898 |
14,410 |
6,520 |
5,396 |
25,013 |
13,107 |
6,166 |
5,365 |
22,178 |
12,738 |
6,121 |
5,098 |
21,204 |
11,641 |
5,671 |
5,035 |
17,611 |
11,174 |
5,408 |
4,678 |
208Pb/232Th,
Maximum Ages
206Pb/238U,
Maximum Ages
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
56,923 |
10,895 |
6,764 |
5,777 |
27,313 |
10,278 |
6,670 |
5,625 |
17,873 |
9,653 |
6,449 |
5,602 |
13,680 |
8,009 |
6,436 |
5,278 |
13,623 |
7,395 |
6,070 |
5,147 |
Table
16
Petrogenesis and
Origins of Mid-Cretaceous
According to the
article 29 this specimen
from the Intraplate Volcanism in Marlborough, New Zealand was dated in 2010 by
scientists from New Zealand. According to the essay: “the intraplate basalts in
New Zealand that have been erupted intermittently over the last c. 100 Myr.” 30 Various tables 31 in the essay have
isotopic ratios which can be calculated. As we can see below they are all at
strong disagreement with each other. There is a spread of dates over a 10
billion year range. None of the Lead based dating methods even come vaguely
close to a Cretaceous age.
Table
17
Table |
207Pb/206Pb |
207Pb/235U |
87Rb/86Sr |
208Pb/232Th |
206Pb/238U |
Summaries |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Average |
4,876 |
4,416 |
59 |
6,333 |
3,515 |
Maximum |
4,945 |
5,159 |
85 |
10,716 |
5,717 |
Minimum |
4,836 |
4,088 |
15 |
4,785 |
2,712 |
Difference |
109 |
1,071 |
70 |
5,931 |
3,005 |
U–Th–Pb Dating
Of Secondary Minerals
According to the
article 32 this rock formation Yucca Mountain, Nevada was dated in
2008 by scientists from United States
Geological Survey, Geological Survey of Canada, and the Australian National
University. According to the essay the true age is unknown: “The U–Pb system in opal and chalcedony allows dating in the
age range from 50 ka to millions of years and older (Ludwig et al., 1980; Neymark et al., 2000,
2002). Recently, the reliability of U–Pb
dating of opal was questioned.” 33 Other authors have affirmed
the same problem. 33 Two tables 34 in the essay have
isotopic ratios which can be calculated. As we can see below they are all at
radical disagreement with each other. There is a spread of dates of almost 353
billion years! None of the Uranium/Lead based dating methods even come vaguely
close to the so called true age. The oldest date is 350,000 times older than the
youngest date.
Age Dating
Summary
Dating |
207Pb/206Pb |
206Pb/238U |
208Pb/232Th |
87Rb/86Sr |
Summary |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Average |
3,459 |
4,891 |
9,984 |
12 |
Maximum |
8,126 |
31,193 |
352,962 |
13 |
Minimum |
-445 |
1 |
2 |
11 |
Difference |
8,571 |
31,192 |
352,960 |
2 |
Table
18
Another table
35 in the essay has a list of calculated dates As we can see below
they are all at radical disagreement with each other. There is a spread of dates
of 82 billion years! None of the Uranium/Lead based dating methods even come
vaguely close to the so called true age. The oldest date is 82,000 times older
than the youngest date.
Age Dating
Summary
Dating |
206Pb/238U |
207Pb/235U |
208Pb/232Th |
87Rb/86Sr |
Summary |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Age |
Average |
1,540 |
46 |
7,687 |
12 |
Maximum |
20,209 |
486 |
82,030 |
13 |
Minimum |
1 |
0 |
3 |
11 |
Difference |
20,208 |
486 |
82,027 |
2 |
Table
19
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